Work Session on
Grinder Pumps
BOARD OF
ALDERMEN
November 13,
2006
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Kathryn A. Dusenbery called the
meeting to order at 6:59 p.m. in the Board Room at
ROLL
CALL
Ward 1 Alderman Deborah Butcher - present
Ward 1 Alderman Jim Brooks - present
Ward 2 Alderman David McCoy - present
Ward 2 Alderman Dave Rittman - present
Ward 3 Alderman Marvin Ferguson - present
Ward 3
Ward 4 Alderman Marc Sportsman - present
Ward 4 Alderman Brian Atkinson - present
ALSO PRESENT: City
Administrator Joe Turner
Public Works
Director Jeff Rupp
Alliance Water
Resources District Manager Dennae Caquelin
Project Manager
Dan Koch
North Hills
Consulting Engineer Jay Norco
Resident Gordon
Cook
Resident Eric
Wood
City Clerk
Barbara J. Lance
MEDIA PRESENT: Nancy
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Jared Hoffman
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Mayor Dusenbery said there would be a
presentation of the facts before discussion and audience participation.
Mr. Norco gave a slide show, which was
also distributed in print form; a copy is attached to the original of these
minutes as Exhibit A. A copy of an
exchange of documents between Mr. Rupp and the Department of Natural Resources
is also attached to the original of these minutes, as Exhibit B. Copies of the minutes and attachments will be
available at the front desk at City Hall.
Options (shown in the attachment labeled
Exhibit A) were discussed, and Mr. Rittman asked about bioxide costs,
suggesting they should be costs shared by all sewer customers of the city.
Mr. Ferguson differed. Mr. Rittman said they started injecting
bioxide in the beginning when there was not enough usage.
Mr. Norco said he thought the need for
bioxide would always be there. Mr.
Rittman said its use should be considered as part of the whole matrix. Mr. McCoy agreed. Mr. Sportsman said they were told they would
need less bioxide over the years.
Mr. Rittman said at one time they were
told they would be using rebuilt pumps.
Mr. Sportsman asked how the City would control what kind of pump
homeowners put in. Mr. Norco said every
pump in the system is about the same. It
is not hard to find a good unit. He said
he didn’t think someone could put in one too large because it has to get
through that service line. To protect
the homeowners he could write a one or two-page document on performance
specifications. Mayor Dusenbery said
there would have been some pumps that have not performed as well as
others.
Mr. Sportsman asked if residents of other
subdivisions with grinder pumps are actually paying for their own units, or are
they subsidized by the homeowners’ associations or other entity? Mr. Rupp said he was not aware of any
arrangements like that, but there could be some.
Mr. Sportsman asked if he had any idea
why, in 1988 when the MDNR (Missouri Department of Natural Resources) was first
approached, the City was told the grinder pumps had to be the City’s responsibility,
and why, around 2002, that policy was changed?
Mr. Rupp said technically that earlier MDNR regulation is still on the
books. They haven’t changed that. The more recent law allowing the City to turn
responsibility over to homeowners takes precedence over the regulation.
Mrs. Butcher asked what other
subdivisions had grinder pumps. Mr.
Norco said there are 13 or more in Riverchase, fewer than 6 in River Hills
Estates, 3 at The National, and the new tract in
Mayor Dusenbery asked if there were any
issues staff wished to discuss. She read
the options listed in the booklet Mr. Norco had prepared, Riss Lake Grinder
Pump System - Funding Study, attached as Exhibit A. At this point Assistant City Clerk Claudia
Willhite started taking the minutes.
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City Clerk Barbara J. Lance - 11/17/06
Alderman
Sportsman noted that “function of flow” was how the current program was sold
initially. Alderman Rittman asked about rebuilt versus new replacement
pumps. Discussion followed regarding use
of a performance formula requirement rather than a prescriptive formula.
Mayor Dusenbery
referred the board to page 19 of the distributed hard copy of the presentation
regarding “Related Issues to Address”.
She asked the board to consider the basic question regarding
funding: “Is the Riss Lake System
(including the pumps) an integral part of the Parkville Sewer System – or –
should it be a financially self-sufficient?” Alderman Sportsman said “Both.”
It was noted
that sooner or later all sewer lines in Parkville will need to be replaced and
they are all part of the
Alderman
Ferguson said it was the Kroh Brothers and subsequent developers who wanted
individual grinder pumps. Alderman
Sportsman said he views it as a slippery slope to segregate out grinder pumps
from the city sewer system.
Alderman
Atkinson noted that the problem is the original plan didn’t cover the costs
involved and problems that surfaced along the way have not been addressed. He said we have a commitment to
Alderman
Ferguson said
Alderman Butcher
asked if there are other levels of support for that and at what level do we do
it as a city? Alderman Ferguson said
grinder pump customers are entitled to the same support as other city sewer
users and all should be treated equal.
Alderman
Atkinson said we’ve got
Alderman
Ferguson pointed out that inflation goes up annually.
Alderman
Atkinson asked where the city takes responsibility. Alderman Rittman said the city worked under
conditions of the mandate and expectations at the time; a preventative
replacement system needs to be in place and pumps upgraded with a better alarm
system. Alderman Atkinson referred the
board to the price comparisons of the options.
At this point in
the meeting, Mayor Dusenbery invited citizen input.
Mr. Gordon Cook,
a
Mayor Dusenbery
noted that some pumps are deficient models.
Alderman
Atkinson asked Mr. Cook if he was referring to the issue of
self-insurance. Mr. Cook said yes. Alderman Rittman asked City Administrator Joe
Turner to follow up on Mr. Cook’s point regarding the state statute in question
and to report back to the board his findings.
Alderman
Sportsman suggested that all options stay open until legal counsel
comments. He added that Option 3 comes
closest to best addressing the issue without drastically altering the rates and
that the city’s obligation should end with covering the deductible.
Alderman McCoy
suggested the board should wait to request any money be spent on legal opinion
until we know which option we prefer. He
then asked Mr. Norco exactly what a lift station does. Mr. Norco said that gravity pipes rarely
break but pipes that are shallow don’t drain well and must be depressurized so
conventional system gravity will take it.
He added that the right-of-way is the City’s responsibility.
Alderman Brooks
asked if the board wants to make any attempt at this meeting to eliminate any
options? Mayor Dusenbery stressed that
all ramifications must be fully understood before any decisions are made.
Mr. Eric Wood
said it’s important that there is an equal demarcation point; using the
easement line reduces the rates to $3 for bioxide and offers a consistent sewer
plan.
Mr. Cook noted
that insurance deductibles can’t be equitable without common demarcation. He said he would support Option 4 and would
be happy to take the risk. He noted that
homeowners should not be self-insured.
Alderman Brooks
asked who owns the grinder pump when a home is bought in
Alderman
Ferguson noted that the replacement purchase is made from funds paid by the
homeowner.
Alderman Rittman
said that originally The Meadows were not part of
Mr. Cook
suggested that some form of transition be employed for a partial payment for
someone who has paid into the fund for 12 years.
Alderman
Sportsman asked if staff had any information on rates for private providers.
Mr. Norco said
there are some private providers who will take care of everything for $30 to
$40 per month and typically $1,900 is the cost for a new unit. Mr. Rupp said the expense for a
rebuilt/refurbished unit is $800 to $1,000.
Mayor Dusenbery
noted that regarding issues listed on page 20 and according to the Missouri
Municipal League, if we don’t repay the Sewer Fund for the unidentified sewer
expenses in 1999, we have to pass an ordinance.
Alderman Rittman
asked about cross years. Mr. Turner
explained that transfers must be approved by the board versus “due to and due
from” equal loans that must be paid back.
Alderman Sportsman asked if there is a maximum timeframe. Mr. Turner said no, typically five years are the
recommended maximum and three years are the average minimum.
Mr. Norco noted
that if
Alderman McCoy
noted that this would help establish demarcation and the funds paid for the
bioxide help cover the deficit. Alderman
Rittman concurred. Brief discussion
ensued regarding the ordinance.
Mayor Dusenbery
said she has names representing a mix of longevity and areas of
Alderman Rittman
asked Mr. Norco to update the options portion of his presentation to take into
consideration revised estimated rates in light of changes to the source for the
bioxide fund.
Alderman
Sportsman asked Mr. Turner to check into costs and options for the city to take
back the sewer billing.
ADJOURNMENT
ALDERMAN McCOY
MOVED THAT THE MEETING ADJOURN; ALDERMAN
The meeting
adjourned at approximately 9:00 p.m.
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